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jeriendhal) wrote2014-04-06 10:18 am
jeriendhal) wrote2014-04-06 10:18 am
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Review: Captain America, the Winter Soldier
Summary: In this darker take on the MCU, man-out-of-time Steve Rogers is on the run after discovering that something is rotten in the center of SHIELD.
Review: This is the biggest, best MCU movie since the Avengers. Period. IM3 by comparison is an intensely personal story for Tony, but restored the status quo at the end. By the end of Winter Soldier a major portion of the MCU is turned upside down and there's no going back.
I like the fact that Falcon was presented as an ex-soldier counseling other veterans, which is a logical hook point for him and Steve to form a friendship, and that he served as a major character in the movie itself, equal to Natasha and a lot more than a stereotypical Black Best Friend. Also the set piece of the assassination attempt against Nick Fury in the middle of DC was incredible, even though by any logic it should have set the whole city on lockdown afterward.
Highly recommended.
1. They wimped out slightly on not permanantly killing Fury. Admittedly there would have been much hue and cry in the fandom, but it would have definitely made a much darker movie and increased the feeling that Everything Has Changed.
2. Though we might be edging dangerously close to Continuity Lockout with the plot. Zola's digitized brain showing up to provide exposition was a very cool moment (I loved the 70's era computer complex, and Natasha's invocation of “WarGames”) but if you weren't familiar with the first Captain America movie it doesn't make much sense.
3. Though the title was “The Winter Soldier”, Bucky's appearance was more of a subplot, though a very good one. I'm guessing his rediscovery of humanity and reuniting with Cap will be a major portion of the next Cap movie.
4. Amazing how we saw no real civilian casualites, even with the villians repeatedly firing into cars on the highway to get at our heroes.
5. I'm wondering if the visibility of the Watergate complex down the river from the Triskelion was deliberate, and perhaps a reference to the government conspiracy and Redford's role in All the President's Men.
6. So after the three Insight helicarriers kill 200,000 people, how was HYDRA going to stop the nations of the world not under their contorl, (not to mention Tony, the Hulk, and Thor) from nuking them out of the sky anyway if their plan had worked?
7. Tuesday's episode of Agents of SHIELD is going to be.... interesting.
Review: This is the biggest, best MCU movie since the Avengers. Period. IM3 by comparison is an intensely personal story for Tony, but restored the status quo at the end. By the end of Winter Soldier a major portion of the MCU is turned upside down and there's no going back.
I like the fact that Falcon was presented as an ex-soldier counseling other veterans, which is a logical hook point for him and Steve to form a friendship, and that he served as a major character in the movie itself, equal to Natasha and a lot more than a stereotypical Black Best Friend. Also the set piece of the assassination attempt against Nick Fury in the middle of DC was incredible, even though by any logic it should have set the whole city on lockdown afterward.
Highly recommended.
1. They wimped out slightly on not permanantly killing Fury. Admittedly there would have been much hue and cry in the fandom, but it would have definitely made a much darker movie and increased the feeling that Everything Has Changed.
2. Though we might be edging dangerously close to Continuity Lockout with the plot. Zola's digitized brain showing up to provide exposition was a very cool moment (I loved the 70's era computer complex, and Natasha's invocation of “WarGames”) but if you weren't familiar with the first Captain America movie it doesn't make much sense.
3. Though the title was “The Winter Soldier”, Bucky's appearance was more of a subplot, though a very good one. I'm guessing his rediscovery of humanity and reuniting with Cap will be a major portion of the next Cap movie.
4. Amazing how we saw no real civilian casualites, even with the villians repeatedly firing into cars on the highway to get at our heroes.
5. I'm wondering if the visibility of the Watergate complex down the river from the Triskelion was deliberate, and perhaps a reference to the government conspiracy and Redford's role in All the President's Men.
6. So after the three Insight helicarriers kill 200,000 people, how was HYDRA going to stop the nations of the world not under their contorl, (not to mention Tony, the Hulk, and Thor) from nuking them out of the sky anyway if their plan had worked?
7. Tuesday's episode of Agents of SHIELD is going to be.... interesting.
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On #6, presumably the helicarriers would've continued by attacking the key people of other nations once they had the USA "secured." National forces would have a hard time reacting fast enough to counter them.
Tony, OTOH, would probably have lost a bunch of friends to them and been on a rampage, assuming he hadn't been in the initial target list.
Hmmm. Tony is vulnerable out of his armor, so the Insight attack could have gotten him. Thor is usually off-planet. Hulk . . . yeah, I have no idea how they were going to deal with Hulk. Possibly they chose a hover altitude outside his maximum jump?
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Tony was on the initial target list. There was a blink and you miss it computer image of the Avengers Tower (clearly labeled as such) when Insight was setting up its targets. Whether a helicarrier would have hit a target in NYC from 300 miles away, and whether the cannon would penetrate whatever defenses Tony built in (and Tony WOULD have defenses built in, especially after IM3) is another thing.
The phrase "Swarm of JARVIS's" comes to mind.
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Also, in plot terms, 3000 feet is around where it's still believable that people could be having a fight on the un-pressurised deck tops.
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